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Cetaganda discussion on Sunday 28.8.!
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So, here we are, book number 4.

  • The Ensigns are in random order, apparently, not any sort of alphabetic. Unless the Barrayaran Cyrillic alphabetical order is way different to modern?

  • Did Zubachik end up as Gregor's guard?

  • The common job is from 7 to 5, as per Ivan

  • Miles is at this point 4'9 (145cm)

  • "for the mutants that may come after me" is expressed this early? I only recall it coming from an older Miles after Memory

  • Camp Permafrost is not quite northerly enough for midnight sun or tundra

  • What is this 3rd Cetagandan War anyway – "peculiar" victory? Was Major Duvallier's execution for espionage related?

  • Miles handles Olney and Pattas rather well :D

  • The Komarran conquest was really recent as of Shards of Honor; I'd have expected it to be a few years earlier

  • Gregor: thin, middle height (which is... how tall on Barrayar? 175cm? 180cm?), dark hair, hazel eyes, "skinny neurasthenic git"

  • Jacksonian law: complete shitshow

  • Someone give Gregor a hug. "Greg Bleakman"?

  • So, how large was the shitshow on Komarr after Gregor evaporates, no note, no trace, from a fully guarded room?

  • Miles Vorkosigan, Quality Control Inspector is a thing that a) should exist and b) I want all the fic of

  • "Space them" is Oser's most inspired decision, as is the order to silence Miles, should he speak

  • Should all hell break loose, the military would go with Count Vorinnis against the anti-centralization liberals, the French-speakers would go with Vorville, the Russian-speakers with Vortugalov, the far-right blow-up-the-wormhole extremists would field Count Vortrifani against the anti-Vor pro-galactics who want a written constitution... I think I want this fic.

  • All the Nexus also calls Miles a mutant; it's not just Barrayar

  • Miles' interesting staff meeting, with two people tied to their chairs and gagged. Was either of them the Peregrine's captain? Who was the other?

  • "Non-communications officer" is gold. As is the whole rest of what Miles said to Cavilo.

  • Gregor <3


Next: Cetaganda, discussion on Sunday 28.8., with a reminder the prior week.
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The Vor Game discussion on Sunday!
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  • "Well, old man," he whispered, then shouted: "ARE YOU SATISFIED YET?" is a pretty good summation of Miles' life

  • And so Admiral Aral's life took General Piotr's like an overpowering hand of cards, and where did that leave Ensign Miles? Holding two deuces and the joker. He must surely either concede or start bluffing like crazy…, too

  • There were 50 000 Firsters. I wonder how good a diverse population that would make? Is that enough that most of the birth defects are due to radiation, rather than from bad recessives showing up due to inbreeding?

  • How long was the Time of Isolation, anyway?

  • What's an "aura detector" that Miles referred to – some sort of infrared recording thing?



Next up, The Vor Game, on the 7th of August (Sunday), with a reminder on the preceding Wednesday.
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We'll be discussing "The Mountains of Mourning" this Sunday. Now that you've been reminded, you can read it through. Please?

Fic Rec

Jul. 11th, 2016 07:49 pm
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So the Not Prime Time stories are posted and there is a story about Alys Vorpatril which is amazingly wonderful (and written for me!)

To Dance Again is a lovely look at Alys and her love of dancing through the years.
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Okay, so I noticed interest dwindling in the comment sections of the readthrough posts. Why is that, and how can I fix it? Are we going too fast? Are my conversation starters bad? Something else?
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Funnier than I remembered!


  • At the start, the reason for forsaking the "Vor-" at the start of the names is to make the castes equal in the Emperor's service now, stated to be part of Aral's reforms.

  • What were the 2nd and 3rd Cetagandan wars? #3 happened during the Regency and #2 before, but do we know anything else?

  • Betans "clip their children's tubes" at age 12

  • oh, poor Miles, getting pitied and apologised to, wanting to fix that

  • Mental Health Board: rather nefarious

  • Oh, Miles, the whole General Fleet Inspection bit was so hilarious (as were a lot of the other Miles-as-Naismith bits)

  • "Vorthalia the Bold demanding a whole-life policy from his Emperor at sword's point"

  • Lead-lined rubber hoses? What else do the Barrayaran Regs hide within?

  • Such an intriguing pile of ragtag recruits from on-planet. Interesting. I wonder how they all got there?

  • Oof, Elena, having everything hid from her for her whole life only to have it all come crashing down.

  • "personal hygiene and absence of head-lice" is an intriguing glimpse into the role of the Barrayaran Baba



Next up, "Mountains of Mourning", discussion on the 9th of July.
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This is slightly ahead of schedule, since apparently my weekend shall be consumed by the Barrayar-approved activity of "boffering", that is, "playing medieval warfare with pieces of drainage pipe coated with foam plastic". In any case, here are my notes on Barrayar:


  • Hmm, no regents for 120 years?

  • There's a very nice description of the Residence near the beginning!

  • Aral, you really should've briefed Cordelia before sending her to meet with Kareen. Or given her a Barrayar Translator.

  • Kareen only wears half-mourning (grey) in private. Scandalous, or expected?

  • What's going on in Darkoi with Count Vorlakial? Do we ever get an answer?

  • Kou is 6'4. Barrayarans: tall. Very tall. That's like 193cm in real units. Though since he's a grocer's son, I guess he got adequate nutrition while growing up?

  • "Appeal to Irrelevant Authorities at Headquarters" oh, Cordelia

  • Bujold: very good with foreshadowing – Vordarian's family tree, Bothari the midwife, A+

  • Alys has two sisters.

  • Cordelia's Rules of Barrayaran Sexual Behavior :DDD

  • Hm, Piotr enjoys explaining Barrayar to Cordelia. An interesting, if tragically brief, moment in canon.

  • Gergor's birthday seems to be in the autumn. Ezar's was earlier in the year.

  • Cordelia's conversation with Vordarian: very confusing for both of them. Yet another example of Cordelia operating from a completely different reference system.

  • Barrayaran therapy: not all that good, it seems.

  • The Caravanserai is part of Vorbarr Sultana, but guarded by Count Vorbohn's guard? What's going on here?

  • There are a surprising amount of incidents summarizable as "Kou noooo".

  • "Post-partum fatigue" oh dear. :D

  • Aral and Piotr's arguments are very gut-punching. Piotr, please get your head out of your ass.

  • Drou: A+ pulling of Kou's strings during the start of their rescue mission.

  • Dorca's great-uncle kept over 300 horses in the old old imperial stables.

  • The amount of gut-punch lines seems to have increased notably: ghost of his most notable failure at his banquet of victory

  • Vordarian's head! On the table!

  • Captain Illyan: certified grade-A puppy.

  • Cordelia has a lot of troubles adjusting to the Barrayaran attitude, it seems.



Next book (The Warrior's Apprentice) will be later, I fear, since I'll be going abroad for a while. I can't promise anything, but somewhere in the vicinity of the 6th of July.
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So, we've read the book and are here to discuss! I am unfortunately not all that good at thematic analysis or arc stuff, but here are some jotted-down notes from my read:
  • Requests for next Bujold Fest: A treatise on Sergyaran nature.

  • Huh, nerve disruptors cause blisters?

  • Nuovo Brasil is name-dropped along with Barrayar and Cetaganda – now I'm curious about the Nuovo Brasilians!

  • Do they have no blue cheese dressing on Barrayar, or does it taste different from the Betan artificial version?

  • Aral's command issues, lol. "Now who in my command is so confused in his thinking as to betray both sides at once?"

  • As was mentioned in the Tor readthrough, Aral confesses to 0.6 murders per day on their trek to the supply cache. I like that this is a valid statistic to measure. :P

  • Koudelka! Gottyan? Nilesa! (I have no idea what I was aiming at with this note, but whatever!)

  • Aral: very abrupt, and not all that good at convincing. "My planet sucks and I fell in love with you while you were puking!" is not the height of romance.

  • It seems like Aral's almost trying to sabotage the invasion by telling Cordelia a lot about the plans.

  • Cordelia: very ingenious. I can definitely see where Miles gets it from!

  • What happened to Cordelia's belt???? It was used to tie up Gottyan, but Aral released him and no further mention was made of the belt. Did Aral keep it as a memento? (Oh, and Aral, get better pants. Yours don't fit. Pants should stay up without a belt!)

  • Cordelia: very good at emotional band-aids

  • 17 replicators, just given to Barrayar, and some of what was said there makes me a bit uncomfortable. "A couple of them were pretty emotionally divided about abortions." Um. And they were given to Barrayar, with the expectation that... they'd be aborted? They'd grow up to be cogs in the Barrayaran machine, off to kill their fully Escobaran half-siblings should a second war happen?

  • How come no-one voted for Steady Freddy?

  • Hm, the Betan and Escobaran psychs seem to have done nothing more than give Cordelia a stutter.

  • oh Cordelia's daring escape :D (an excellent combination of ingenuity and emotional band-aids!)

  • Hm, Aral loathes tiny women? (Another things Miles seems to have inherited...)

  • The Bothari bits make me uncomfortable.

  • Count Vortala A+ snark. I don't suppose we see much more of him?

  • "declare everyone a Vor and be done with the whole bloody nonsense forever" oh, Aral.

  • The Escobaran war's called the 120 day war, despite only lasting for 118 days and a part of an hour!

  • Mother's Tears charms don't seem to return IIRC?

  • Medtech Boni carries around a wedding dress??? Okay this section is creepy.


All in all, better than I remembered, especially re: Cordelia and Aral's relationship. It is still structured so that Cordelia gives up everything while Aral gives up pretty much nothing, but it's more that Cordelia is driven away from Beta than that she walks voluntarily. I wonder what it'd have been like had Dr. Mehta and her colleagues not been such colossal assholes to Cordelia.

Next up is Barrayar, with a discussion post hopefully up on the 18th or 19th.
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Okay, there was some interest, so let's begin! We'll be doing this in internal chronological order (save Falling Free), one book/short story at a time.

First: Shards of Honor, discussion on the 10th of June.

Order:
  1. Shards of Honor and "Aftermaths"

  2. Barrayar

  3. The Warrior's Apprentice

  4. "Mountains of Mourning"

  5. The Vor Game

  6. Cetaganda

  7. Ethan of Athos

  8. "Labyrinth"

  9. "The Borders of Infinity"

  10. Brothers in Arms

  11. the untitled frame story of Borders of Infinity

  12. Mirror Dance

  13. Memory

  14. Komarr

  15. A Civil Campaign

  16. "Winterfair Gifts"

  17. Falling Free

  18. Diplomatic Immunity

  19. Captain Vorpatril's Alliance

  20. Cryoburn

  21. Gentleman Jole and the Red Queen


...that's a lot of Vorkosigan saga! In any case, does that order satisfy you, or have I made a terrible mistake somewhere?
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So, there shall be another Bujold Fest on AO3 in the early autumn (prompting'll start in early August, I think), and in preparation, I suggest a readthrough! (Or themed discussion posts? Perhaps both?)

Now, looking back, the last readthrough (in 2009) didn't reach The Vor Game, so I guess we could either start with that, or start from Shards of Honor, and then continue in chronological order. How do people feel about it?

EDIT: One book at a time, or each book in many segments? (I'd prefer one book per post, and feel like that would be easiest to organize.)

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Title: The Princess in the Tower
Author: beatrice_otter
Fandom: Vorkosigan series
Characters: Yuri Vorbarra's Sister, Xav Vorbarra, Ezar Vorbarra, Piotr Vorkosigan
Written for: ExtraPenguin's prompt in the 2013 Bujold Ficathon.
Summary: Princess Nadezhda's civil war

On AO3

Nadya stared out the window, embroidery forgotten in her lap. )
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Title: Timing, As Always, Is Everything
Author: kaffyr
Characters: Ivan Vorpatril, Alys Vorpatril, Simon Illyan
Words: 1,011
Summary: Why in the name of everything that was, is, or will be holy, had he not thought to knock before waltzing in? A moment with Ivan Vorpatril, his mother, and his former boss.
Author's note: This was written for [personal profile] trobadora , during the 2015 Fandom Stocking fun. This takes place during the events of "Memory," after Miles has figured out what's happening between Alys and Ilyan, but before Ivan storms in to bellow at Miles about that very situation.
Edited by: myself, somewhat obsessively. However, I take all the blame for misspellings, bad sentence construction and out of character characterizations.
Disclaimer: Much as I might wish it were otherwise, nothing in the Vorkosiverse is mine. Everything is the property of Lois McMaster Bujold. I intend no copyright infringement and take no coin. I do, however, love the characters and thank Ms Bujold for letting me play in her sandbox. 
Read at: DW, LJ, AO3
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I wrote two Ges/Aral fics for yuletide this year:

Vorkosigan's Viper. (1524 words) by Lanna Michaels
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Aral Vorkosigan/Ges Vorrutyer
Characters: Ges Vorrutyer, Aral Vorkosigan
Additional Tags: Yuletide 2015, Yuletide Treat, Alternate Universe - A/B/O, Mpreg, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, Ambition, Marriage, Barrayaran Power Couples, Five Times, Alpha Aral Vorkosigan, Omega Ges Vorrutyer
Summary:

Five ways Ges shows his love.



Drink Down That Gin And Kerosene. (1102 words) by Lanna Michaels
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold
Rating: Mature
Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply
Relationships: Ges Vorrutyer/Aral Vorkosigan
Characters: Ges Vorrutyer, Aral Vorkosigan
Additional Tags: Yuletide 2015, Yuletide Treat, PWP, Time Period: Reign of Ezar Vorbarra, Blowjobs, The Pairing Is the Warning
Summary:

Ges fucks the Prince's grandson at the Prince's birthday.

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A ficlet I wrote (for a brilliant and excellent prompt) on LJ a while ago, now on AO3:

The Butcher of Komarr (721 words) by avanti_90
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence
Relationships: Gregor Vorbarra & Serg Vorbarra
Characters: Gregor Vorbarra, Serg Vorbarra
Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, Alternate Universe - Komarran, Prompt Fic, Wordcount: 500-1.000
Summary:

Written for ricardienne's prompt: Komarran AU: the (Vor)kosigans and (Vor)barras are oligarchic Komarran families.

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The sign-up post is here. Let us form into an army of Vorkosifen.

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Coward (7262 words) by avanti_90
Chapters: 1/1
Fandom: Vorkosigan Saga - Lois McMaster Bujold
Rating: Teen And Up Audiences
Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings
Relationships: Rulf Vorhalas & Aral Vorkosigan, Rulf Vorhalas & Xav Vorbarra's Betan Wife
Characters: Rulf Vorhalas, Aral Vorkosigan, Serg Vorbarra, Ges Vorrutyer, Commodore Helski, Commander Venne, Xav Vorbarra's Betan Wife, Count Vorhalas
Additional Tags: Alternate Universe, Friendship, War Crimes
Series: Part 3 of Lord Gregor
Summary:

In a universe with one small change, everything goes wrong for Rulf Vorhalas at Escobar. The consequences are far-reaching.
Warnings inside.

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Does anyone here have an interest in trying to coordinate Yuletide character nominations?

It looks like it might really be the last year for Vorkosigan (I know we say that every year, but...), so it would be lovely to get a really comprehensive tag set.

According to the reporting post over on LJ, someone (yhlee?) has nominated Aral, Ges, Cordelia and Lady Alys.

I'm planning to nominate Kareen, Mark, Byerly, and Donna/Dono.

Other characters I'd like to see get nominated include (but are not limited to): Miles himself, Ekaterin, Ivan, Gregor, Taura, Simon, Duv, Bel Thorne, Tej, Rish...
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Lois just made an announcement to the email list:

Subterranean Press has made an offer to do a print edition of the novella "Penric's Demon".

Unlike larger publishers, they can do smaller, more quirky projects, and seem a very good fit for this novella-length work.

The ink is not yet dry on the contract, so I can't give you publication specifics for the good reason that they don't yet exist. But the probabilities are release sometime in the later part of 2016, and a modest hardcover run, with a limited number of signed copies.

So, all you people who asked in the comments for a paper edition, here you go. Subterranean does some very pretty book design, so I expect it will be worth the wait.

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