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vorkosiganOn the way back from stitchnbitch yesterday, a group of us were talking about Vorkosigans, as you do, and the thought of crossovers arose. One possibility someone (ase , I think) said was to have Ivan somehow on Atlantis as John's boss. That made my mind jump to the possibility of an inter-universe exchange program, like exchange students but exchange officers, where one of The Best and Brightest gets sent to the other place for six months to learn how They do it. And what came to mind was an exchange of Ivan and Cam Mitchell. I went to sleep on this, and this is what I woke up with:
Pros: Both of them already have impossible families and military backgrounds. Drop either one into the maelstrom that is the other's social circle, and he'll come up swimming. Cam is an officer and a gentleman but also a country guy; Miles can take him up to Vorkosigan Surleau and out to visit his small-town friends and Cam will be just fine with this. Alys can set him down next to the shyest girl and he'll chat her up and make her feel good. I suspect that Ivan, dropped into a Mitchell family gathering with cousins and aunts and uncles and dozens of others, would flounder for a little while until he noticed how pretty all the girls were.
Considerations: Ivan doesn't know how to not hide in the corner, so to speak. He's always walking a fine line, trying not to be too noticeable in case someone decided to depose Gregor, kill off Miles and make Ivan emperor. He's an imperial subject, so he doesn't have much understanding of democratic processes (he'd call them Betan), and his family structures and situations are authoritarian rather than communitarian (which is what I see in the Mitchell fanfic in various places). Ivan really can do more than he does, but I think he gets bored with that and doesn't think that he could find another way to do things. In a way, it's as if Miles is the older brother he's always trying to live up to; Ivan may have the perfect body but Miles has the adventurous life that Ivan can't keep up with.
Cam's military, in a military family, but it's not personal in the sense that he's fighting for his country and his family, but not for an emperor he used to play with when he was a child. I think he's a little more easygoing than Ivan and easier on himself in certain ways. He's also got the injuries from Antarctica (which the show ignores but I don't think fiction should, entirely), which gives him something in common with Miles. Both Miles and Ivan have lived in other cultures more than Cam has; Cam has been in other cultures along with team members, but except for his time with the Sodan he was never immersed in another culture.
And I think Miles and Cam together might sneak off and go joyriding in Miles's lightflyer. Or maybe Cam gets to hang out with the Dendarii briefly...
The thing that would make it work is that there would be a different quantum mirror, made of some substance from Cetaganda, for example, that allowed travel to some sector of the Pegasus galaxy from which Cetagandans brought back interesting plants for their gardens and labs. And at some time they lost it, or it was misplaced in the war, or something like that, and they decided not to say anything about that because they were sure none of the less-advanced-than-they-were cultures could use it, so they just made another and kept going. But this extra mirror was out there in a closet or something, and got captured in the war and somehow got stuck in an attic, (maybe at Vorkosigan Surleau?) because nobody knew anything except that it was a very weird picture or mirror or something... and then someone decided to touch it. Or maybe it was in the attic at Miles's home and he and Ivan played with it when they were very small, a la The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.
It's total crack, of course.
Thoughts? Should I start ducking while large squishy fruit is thrown in this direction?
ase , I think) said was to have Ivan somehow on Atlantis as John's boss. That made my mind jump to the possibility of an inter-universe exchange program, like exchange students but exchange officers, where one of The Best and Brightest gets sent to the other place for six months to learn how They do it. And what came to mind was an exchange of Ivan and Cam Mitchell. I went to sleep on this, and this is what I woke up with:Pros: Both of them already have impossible families and military backgrounds. Drop either one into the maelstrom that is the other's social circle, and he'll come up swimming. Cam is an officer and a gentleman but also a country guy; Miles can take him up to Vorkosigan Surleau and out to visit his small-town friends and Cam will be just fine with this. Alys can set him down next to the shyest girl and he'll chat her up and make her feel good. I suspect that Ivan, dropped into a Mitchell family gathering with cousins and aunts and uncles and dozens of others, would flounder for a little while until he noticed how pretty all the girls were.
Considerations: Ivan doesn't know how to not hide in the corner, so to speak. He's always walking a fine line, trying not to be too noticeable in case someone decided to depose Gregor, kill off Miles and make Ivan emperor. He's an imperial subject, so he doesn't have much understanding of democratic processes (he'd call them Betan), and his family structures and situations are authoritarian rather than communitarian (which is what I see in the Mitchell fanfic in various places). Ivan really can do more than he does, but I think he gets bored with that and doesn't think that he could find another way to do things. In a way, it's as if Miles is the older brother he's always trying to live up to; Ivan may have the perfect body but Miles has the adventurous life that Ivan can't keep up with.
Cam's military, in a military family, but it's not personal in the sense that he's fighting for his country and his family, but not for an emperor he used to play with when he was a child. I think he's a little more easygoing than Ivan and easier on himself in certain ways. He's also got the injuries from Antarctica (which the show ignores but I don't think fiction should, entirely), which gives him something in common with Miles. Both Miles and Ivan have lived in other cultures more than Cam has; Cam has been in other cultures along with team members, but except for his time with the Sodan he was never immersed in another culture.
And I think Miles and Cam together might sneak off and go joyriding in Miles's lightflyer. Or maybe Cam gets to hang out with the Dendarii briefly...
The thing that would make it work is that there would be a different quantum mirror, made of some substance from Cetaganda, for example, that allowed travel to some sector of the Pegasus galaxy from which Cetagandans brought back interesting plants for their gardens and labs. And at some time they lost it, or it was misplaced in the war, or something like that, and they decided not to say anything about that because they were sure none of the less-advanced-than-they-were cultures could use it, so they just made another and kept going. But this extra mirror was out there in a closet or something, and got captured in the war and somehow got stuck in an attic, (maybe at Vorkosigan Surleau?) because nobody knew anything except that it was a very weird picture or mirror or something... and then someone decided to touch it. Or maybe it was in the attic at Miles's home and he and Ivan played with it when they were very small, a la The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe.
It's total crack, of course.
Thoughts? Should I start ducking while large squishy fruit is thrown in this direction?
